Friday, March 25, 2011

The AVERY line

Here is the summary of compiled information on the AVERY line of mine. Several researchers have covered this line extensively so I am not attempting to do any research on this family line. I do hope I will get to go and visit Devon in England one day to say 'hiya' to my ancestor Francis AVERY and possible his parents Nathaniel AVERY and Mary COLLINS.

This is what one of the AVERY researchers have come up with:

Francis AVERY was born in Devon in 1713 and died on 14th July 1775 aged 62 years. He married Grace DEWSTIN whose birth details remained unknown, however her death occurred on 22nd July 1781 in Devon.

It is generally assumed that Nathaniel AVERY was Francis' father and that Mary COLLINS his mother, however there are a few doubts due to the year differences.

Nathaniel AVERY was born around 1669 in the northern area of France and was in the Huguenot army of William of Orange which landed England in 1689. Nathaniel would have been 20 years old when he arrived the shore of England that the members of the army of William the Orange were allowed to stay in England for 8 years after their arrival. If by that time they had not married or taken a trade (the latter being difficult due to the guild restricitions on apprenticeships) they were expected to leave England. Hence his marriage to Mary COLLINS on 4th March 1697 in Devon (Wembury). Mary Collins was a spinster running her aged parents farm and was probably a convenient person to marry at that time when it became necessary to leave England for Nathaniel.

The COLLINS Tenement, a small farm have had became the AVERY Tenement in the records (which records??). The issue arose on the parentage of Francis was Mary's age. It was believed that from probability on the ages of marriages, it could means Mary would have been 56 when she had Francis which is very unlikely, so she could be the grandmother?

Anyhow, all are assumptions for above meaning there are no certain evidence.

This leaves me wondering if we are really directly related to Nathaniel AVERY - time will tell I suppose.

So far many websites and researchers indicated that this is how it goes...

Lineage as from the earliest known for five generations only:
  1. Nathaniel AVERY - b. c. 1644, m?, d. ? to ?
  2. Nathaniel AVERY - b. 1669, d. 1752, m. 4/3/1697 to Mary COLLINS - b. ?, d. 1729
  3. Francis AVERY - b. 1713, d. 14/7/1775, m. 7/7/1738 to Grace DEWSTIN - b. ?, d. 22/7/1781
    1. Nathaniel AVERY - b. 5/3/1739, d. 12/8/1781, m. 1/3/1767 to Ann WEBB - b. 1749, d. 1/10/1781
      1. Nathaniel AVERY - b. 10/10/1767, d. 1/3/1848, m. ? to Elizabeth COUCH - b. 1768, d. 1848
      2. William AVERY - b. 9/4/1769, d. 5/7/1850
      3. Sampson AVERY - b. 17/5/1771, d. 12/5/1810, m. 4/4/1800 to Sarah Mary ALGATE - b. 1782, d. 26/10/1830
      4. Grace AVERY - b. 11/3/1774
      5. Francis AVERY - b. 1/9/1776, d. 21/3/1811, m. 12/7/1798 to Jenny POST/POET/POTE - b. ?, d. ?
    2. Grace AVERY - b. 27/12/1741, d. ?, m. 12/5/1765 to John CROCKER - b. 1766, d. ?
      1. John CROCKER - b. 1766
      2. Betty CROCKER - b. 1767, d. ?, m. ? to Samuel BUNKER/BONNKER - b. 1792
      3. Sampson CROCKER - b. 1770
      4. Walter CROCKER - b. 1772
      5. Mary Waldron CROCKER - b. 1774
      6. William CROCKER - b. 1777, d. 1778
      7. William CROCKER - b. 1780
      8. Tamzin CROCKER - b. 1783
    3. Robin AVERY - b. 10/8/1746, d. ?, m. 1775 to Eleanor ? - b. 1750, d. 1827
      1. John AVERY - b. 1778
      2. Robert AVERY - b. 1783
      3. Susanne AVERY - b. 8/6/1785, d. 28/11/1821
    4. Sampson AVERY - b. 3/5/1749, d. 1808
    5. Francis AVERY - b. 10/10/1753, d. 7/9/1801, m. ? to Sarah ? - b. ?, d. ?
      1. Richard AVERY - b. 1783, d. 29/6/1792
      2. Mary AVERY - b. 1785, d. 18/3/1787
      3. Francis AVERY - b. 1787, m? to Alice ? - b. ?
      4. Samson AVERY - b. 1791
      5. Richard AVERY - b. 1793
The names in bold are my direct line of ancestors.

The big difference in years between Nathaniel II and Francis makes me wonder if there is one more Nathaniel between them which means there'd be Nathaniel III... ?

Anyway, the area where the majority of AVERYs lived and buried is called Wembury, in Devon England. The photos I copied from other websites shows the island off the shore - this island is called the Great Mew Stone Island, a National Trust property now. Apparently many AVERYs have been christened or buried at Mewstone Island, and probably at the church - 'St Wemburgh's' with its striking 14th century tower - the tower was the landmark for mariners when they make course for Plymouth Harbour nearby.






 Here is the brief history of Wembury: (from Wikipedia, of course) "Wembury is a village on the south coast of Devon, very close to Plymouth Sound. Wembury is also the name of the peninsula in which the village is situated. The name 'Wembury' may derive from a place name containing the name Woden and John Mitchell Kemble notes that it was called "Wódnesbeorh".

Wembury was visited by Mesolithic man as evidenced by flint implements found on local sites. Some Roman coins are also found. Saxons colonised South West Devon during the 7th Century, and founded agricultural settlements here. There was also a church to Saint Werburgh, a Saxon saint, in the area.

Wembury is mentioned in The Forsyte Saga by John Galsworthy. Galsworthy visited Wembury as part of his research for the book, he was intensely interested in his own origins and descent through a long line of Devon farmers who farmed in Wembury for three hundred years from the 17th century to the late 19th century. Wembury was used as a location in the filming of the Comic Strip's parody "Five Go Mad on Mescalin". In the film the Mewstone can be clearly seen.

The parish of Wembury was divided into four manors: Wembury, Down Thomas, Langdon and Alfelmeston. According to Lyson's 'Devonshire', published in 1822, the manor of Wembury originally belonged to Plympton priory. After the dissolution of the monasteries in 1539 it went into private ownership. Wembury House, the (rebuilt) mansion on the estate, remains in private ownership. Wembury House is an elegant Georgian mansion, originally an Elizabethan House stood on the site now occupied by the current house built in the 17th Century. It was rebuilt by Major Edmund Lockyer.

A distinctive feature visible from Wembury Beach is the Mewstone. This is a triangular island which is currently uninhabited. However, it has served as a prison and a private home, as well as a refuge for local smugglers. Its most infamous resident was Sam Wakeman who avoided transportation to Australia in favour of the cheaper option of transportation to the Mewstone, where he was interred for 7 years. After his interment on the island he remained there paying his rent by supplying rabbits for the Manor House table. It is said Sam Wakeman is responsible for carving the rough stone steps to the summit of the Mewstone. The Mewstone and Little Mewstone is now a bird sanctuary and access is not permitted to visitors.

It is believed that Nathaniel AVERY was a Huguenot, which indicated the use of biblical names, eg. Nathaniel, Sampson, Francis, etc. So my AVERY line, the Wembury AVERY, originated from the main AVERY ancestor from Exeter.

There was a cottage which was viewed as recent as 1990 with a sign named 'Shoe', located at Down Thomas. This was the birthplace of many of the AVERY children. A Leonard AVERY was still running the shoe shop in 1937. I cannot find this cottage online now but it doesn't mean that it has gone.

One interesting note about the AVERY and its' connection to the story of Long John Silver. Apparently Nathaniel AVERY had a brother named John AVERY (Long John Avery) and the character of Long John Silver of Treasure Island was based on this John because he was very tall and had snowy white hair!

From an inscription on a tombstone of William AVERY (b. 1829 - d. 1895) - "Watch, for ye know not the hour."

For now, I am leaving this as it is. Next time I will focus more on my Sampson AVERY and his family. Perhaps if I can find more noteworthy details, I'd include more on the rest of AVERY family mentioned above.

Family Surnames: ALGATE, AVERY, BUNKER/BONNKER, COLLINS, COUCH, CROCKER, DEWSTIN, POST/POET/POTE, WEBB

    Thursday, March 24, 2011

    The AVERY girls


    This photo I had was a photocopying photo of an old photo (location unknown), for the lack of better wording, of the AVERY girls. I am guessing it was taken at Cooma NSW around 1911. This was just before Jean (Catherine Jean)'s death soon after (cause unknown).

    Following the left to right with names on photo:

    Ivy - Ivy Alice AVERY: born 15 June 1906, died 23 December 1968. Married 1927 to Edward George SMITH (b. 1 September 1902 - d. 8 August 1957) Children: 6 - 3 males and 3 females.

    Elsie - Elsie May AVERY: born 25 October 1901, died 9 June 1971. Married 13 December 1922 to Alfred DOUGLAS (b. 23 July 1893 - d. 9 June 1960) Children: 5 - 2 males and 3 females.

    Jean - Catherine Jean AVERY: born 31 May 1910, died 1911.

    Eva - Florence Elva AVERY: born 3 December 1904, died ? December 1975. Married 1921 to Harold W STURGISS (b. 1902 - d. 2 February 1939) Children: 2 - one male and one female.

    Venie - Sarah Lavinia AVERY: born 13 October 1907, died 18 July 1989. Married 9 December 1927 in Queanbeyan NSW to Nicholas John STATHIS (b. 7 January 1897, Greece, - d. 10 April 1952, Queanbeyan NSW) Children: 7 -  4 males and 3 females.

    The AVERY girls have a younger brother named Henry Darton AVERY: b. 13 January 1917 and died unmarried on 29 September 1983.

    Their parents: Matthias (Thias) Henry Darton AVERY: b. 25 May 1872, NSW & d. 14 April 1952, Cooma NSW. Married 7 October 1899 to Catherine HOCKEY - b. 29 July 1879, NSW & d. 13 May 1959, Cooma NSW.

    Matthias and Catherine (nee HOCKEY) AVERY, by 2001, have 20 grandchildren, 54 great-grandchildren, and 60+ great great-grandchildren all over Australia and world.

    Family Surnames: AVERY, DOUGLAS, HOCKEY, SMITH, STATHIS, STURGISS

    Wednesday, March 9, 2011

    Parents of Sarah Thornton

    Who could they be? This is the current mystery my cousins and I are trying to solve.
    This is what we have so far - although recently one of cousins have got more details which will be posted here next.

    Sarah Thornton arrived in Sydney in Sydney Cove on 28 July 1814 with her 2 years old daughter Sarah and her a month old son Samuel, who was born at sea.
    It was not certain where she went after arriving, but it is most likely that they have had gone to the Female Factory at Parramatta. 

    It was not until late October when her husband Samuel Thornton arrived Sydney Cove as a free settler, that she was then assigned to him, along with their children. By 1816, their residence address is stated as Macquarie Street – opposite the hospital.

    From the obituaries of George A Thornton, one of Sarah’s sons, it was stated that Sarah had her parents living in Parramatta during George’s childhood. The death notice appeared on the Sydney Morning Herald dated Saturday 18 January 1851 (1) announced that:
    “At Parramatta, on the 17th instant, Mr. Joseph Jones, aged 82 years; deceased was a resident of Parramatta for nearly fifty years, and was grand-father of Mr. George Thornton, of Sydney.”
    Then we have another death notice appearing in the Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser dated Monday 26 November 1827 (2):
    “On Friday night last, at Parramatta, Mrs. Sarah Thornton, Wife of Samuel Thornton, publican, Sydney. She leaves a husband and 6 young children, to deplore her irreparable loss.”
    That would indicates that Sarah died at her parents’ place in Parramatta in 1827.

    According to the publication concentrating on the Archaeological Zoning Plan3 for Parramatta area, there are two records concerning both Jones and Thornton at Parramatta North (3):
    Page 41:
    No. 47 (FP345368) Grose Street.
    1823 return: Joseph JONES. 1823 lease: Joseph JONES. (LTO. Book 25. No. 243). Grant: Joseph JONES. Sec. 13. Allt. –
    Sites of buildings
    1823 map: building. 1844 map: same building, masonry, another, wood.
    Extant buildings
    none.
    Archaeological zoning
    group 1.

    Page 42:
    No. 50 (DP506147. DP507688. DP216650) Public Garden and Recreation Space. Grose and Sorrell Street.
    1823 return: Joseph JONES. 1823 lease: Joseph JONES. (LTO. Book 25. No 249). Grant: George THORNTON, Margaret TUCKER, Sarah MORRIS, and Mary Ann ECCLESTON. Sec. 14. Allt. 4
    Sites of buildings
    1823 map: building. 1844 map: building, masonry.
    Extant buildings
    none.
    Archaeological zoning
    group 1.

    The map shows that the No. 47 is located on the south east side corner of Grose and Sorrell Streets, while the No. 50 is located on the north east side corner of Grose and Sorrell Streets.
    During 1828, when the census was taken, Mary A THORNTON was recorded twice! 
    Shown below in the order of alphabetic entries:
    - JONES, Joseph, aged 57, per Royal Admiral – 1801, sentence 7 years, Brickmaker, protestant of Parramatta. Wife – Mary, aged 57, per Wanstead – 1814, sentence 7 years. THORNTON, Mary A, aged 6, BC.

    - THORNTON,Samuel,aged45,CameFreeper‘Somersetshire’-1814,Publican,George St, Sydney. Children - Sarah 16 (CF), Samuel 14 (CF), Margaret 9 (BC), George 7 (BC),
    Mary Ann 6 (BC), and Edward 5 (BC).

    So therefore, the possibility of Joseph JONES being related to Sarah THORNTON is quite high, however the relation between Mary and Sarah is not certain. The reason for uncertainty lies in this marriage record (4):
    V18151715 3A/1815, JONES JOSEPH, WHITE MARY, CB & V1815683 147B/1815, JONES JOSEPH, WHITE MARY, CB (CB - Church of England - Parramatta, St John's)
    Joseph JONES
    (c. 1770 - 1851)

    TRIAL AT THE OLD BAILEY

    Joseph Jones was tried at the Old Bailey in London, Middlesex on 30 October 1799 for stealing the property of Charles and Jonathan Glover at Piccadilly. Joseph was aged 28 at the trial and he was found guilty and transported for 7 years.

    The transcript of the trial (5):
    535.  JOSEPH JONES was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 21st of October, two blankets, value 10s. a bed-tick, value 23s. and a bolster-tick, value 6s. the property of Charles Glover, and Jonathan Glover.
    CHARLES GLOVER sworn. - I am an upholsterer, in partnership with my brother,    John Glover, the corner of Albemarle-street, Piccadilly: On Monday the 21st of October,    Ann Davis brought me the property mentioned in the indictment; I knew them to be mine.
    Q. Did you never sell those articles? - A. No; not of that manufacture.
    ANN DAVIS sworn. - I am servant to Mr. Glover: My mother, in the country, desired me to ask the price of a bed-tick; I asked the man in the shop, the prisoner at the bar; he said, if I wanted a tick, he would let me have one much cheaper than I could have it of my master; nothing more was said for a fortnight afterwards; then he came into the kitchen, and asked me if I should want a tick; I told him I should not want it till my mother came out of the country in February; he said, very well; I was to give him a guinea for it.
    Q. Did you get the bed-tick of him? - A. No, I did not; a fortnight ago last Friday, I told my master of it, and he desired I would buy it; my sister had the tick from him on the Friday night; the 17th of October I received the tick from my sister, my sister went with him and took them of him; as soon as I got it home, on Sunday the 20th of October, I gave it to my master, and the bolster-tick that I had from my sister; I paid him for them on Monday the 21st of October.
    Cross-examined by Mr. Knowlys. Q. How long, before you told your master of this, was it that you asked the price of the bed-tick? - A. About six weeks.
    Q. The prisoner then told you he had one to dispose of? - A. He said he could help me to one.
    Q. The prisoner and you lived in the house together? - A. Yes, we did.
    Q. Has there been any less good understanding between you lately than at first? - A. No; we agreed very well all the time we lived together.
    Q. Up to the time that he was taken up? - A. Yes.
    MARY EVANS sworn. - I am a sister to the last witness: On Thursday, the 17th of October, I had been at the other end of the town, and in coming home I called upon my sister; she told me the prisoner had offered to sell her a tick, that was to be brought to our house that night; we were at tea, and the prisoner came into the kitchen for a light; he asked me how long I should be before I went home; I told him in about an hour and a half I should be at home; he told me if I would go directly, he would walk with me; when I came up into the street, the prisoner was waiting at the door for me; we walked together to the second or third street from Mr. Glover's house; he then asked me which way I would go; I told him I should go along Leicester-fields, and Lincoln's-inn-fields, and down Holborn; he told me he had to call at Brewer-street, but before I reached Queen-street, he should overtake me; he overtook me with something in his apron; we walked together till we came to Aldersgate-street, where he went up a passage and knocked at a door; he told me he would be down again in a moment; he came down stairs and gave me the tick that is now produced; when he came down he had nothing in his apron; it was Maidenhead-court; when he gave me the tick, I said, I supposed my sister would satisfy him for it; he said very well; I searched the tick, but could not find any mark upon it; I put it in my drawer and kept it till Sunday; it was a bed- tick and a bolster-tick, and on Sunday afternoon my husband went up to let Mr. Glover know that such a thing was at our house; Mr. Glover sent my sister, and I gave them to her; they have been at Mr. Glover's ever since.
    JOHN MILLER sworn. - I belong to the Public-Office, Bow-street: On the 23d of October, I searched the prisoner's lodgings in St. John's-street, and found two blankets on the bed, which Mr. Glover said were his property.
    Mr. Glover. This is the bolster-tick, it has our mark upon it; it is marked 7, 8, 4 treddle, with U and E upon it, that is our shop mark; the bed-tick is marked with a bu and u; we had missed them, and I am very confident we have never sold any such articles.
    Q. Look at the blankets? - A. This is our blanket; it is marked with a G; we had four of them lying in the shop, and we missed two; the other blanket I cannot swear to, but this, I swear positively to.
    Mr. Knowlys. Q. How do you know you had not sold them? - A. I had these very ticks in my hand, about seven weeks ago, and we had no such thing set down in our books; we have not sold any one tick of this sort since they have been marked, previous to that; there has not been any besides the one that we missed, but what has been sent out to customers in beds.
    Q. How long has this man lived with you? - A. Twelve months last June, we had him from Mr. Seddon's in Aldersgate-street.
    Q. You received a good character with him? - A. Yes.
    Q. Does it not often happen that a blanket is lent to the servant to carry out goods in? - A. No; this is a fine large blanket; the blankets we use for wrappers are smaller than this, and old ones, and always marked with our name.
    Prisoner's defence. I have no knowledge at all of taking them. 
    GUILTY. (Aged 28.)
    Transported for seven years.
    Tried by the second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. BARON THOMPSON.

    It seems that Joseph was assigned a servant to the Glovers, who makes ticks, bolster-ticks, bed-ticks and blankets (The definition of ticks (6) - A tick is simply a linen or cotton bag filled with feathers - straw, wool or cotton - and sewn shut. The fabric, called ticking, needed to be closely woven to avoid feathers leaking out. Often the ticking was waxed, or rubbed with soap, to help keep it impenetrable. The weight of vintage ticking is heavier than the ticking made today. This is due to the density of the woven fibers. The weight of the fabric limited the usefulness in everyday clothing.)

    Joseph Jones was sent to Sydney Cove on the Royal Admiral which left England on 23 May 1800 and arrived in NSW on 20 November 1800, along with other 300 male convicts. The journey took 181 days with its Master named William Wilson and the Surgeon Samuel Turner, however their care over the convicts were not good enough as there were 43 recorded deaths. It was Royal Admiral’s second journey to Australia, but on the first journey with the Forth Fleet (1792), her Master was Edward Manning and there was only 10 deaths and a birth. Thus Joseph was on a ship that was listed with the 4th highest death records out of 48 ships spanned between 1788 to 1800! (7)

    In the new country

    It is not known what he would have been doing between his arrival in 1800 and 1806, his trade unknown, and his assignments unknown so far.
    By 1806, Joseph Jones has a Sarah Farrell (per Experiment - 1804, she disappeared before the 1822 Muster) living with him at Parramatta (8) - it is not certain if she was an assigned convict or a lived-in de-facto wife. 

    From 1807, he is listed in the Colonial Secretary Index (9):
    JONES, Joseph
    1807 Mar 16, Apr 23 - On statement of capital advanced by Gregory Blaxland in his concerns from 27 Dec 1806 to 24 Nov 1807; for bricks (Reel 6043; 4/1727 pp. 189, 190)
    1808 May 8 - On statement of capital advanced by John Blaxland in his concerns from 3 Apr 1807 to 14 Sep 1808; for bricks (Reel 6043; 4/1727 p.209)
    1817 Apr 30-1819 Feb 20 - Paid from the Police Fund for bricks supplied for Government at Parramatta; also listed as Jacob (Reel 6038; SZ759 pp.346, 374, 411, 439, 474 & SZ1044 p.9)
    1819 Aug 24 - Paid from the Police Fund for bricks for Government use (Reel 6038; SZ1044 p.85)
    JONES, Joseph
    1822 Jan 5 - On return of proceedings of the Bench of Magistrates, Parramatta (Fiche 3297; X643 p.1a)
    JONES, Joseph. Of Parramatta 1822 Mar 31-Dec 31 - On lists of persons to whom convict mechanics have been
    assigned (Fiche 3296; X53 pp.5, 18, 30, 45)
    1822 Jul 18 - Signatory to memorial from inhabitants and stockholders of Parramatta re common land on the Sydney road known as the Dog Traps (Reel 6055; 4/1761 p.22b)
    JONES, Joseph
    1822 Dec 26 - Runaway. Apprehended and convicted (Reel 6056; 4/1763 pp. 97-101)
    1823 Apr 11 - Re non advertisement when runaway (Reel 6010; 4/3508 p.120)
    JONES, Joseph
    1823 Apr 5 - On return of allotments in the town of Parramatta (Fiche 3265; 4/7576 p.18)
    JONES, Joseph. Of Prospect 1823 Oct 31 - On list of persons receiving an assigned convict (Fiche 3290;
    4/4570D p.57)
    JONES, Joseph. Of Parramatta 1824 Aug - On list of persons receiving an assigned convict (Fiche 3290; 4/4570D
    p.58)
    The Musters of New South Wales and such from 1811 to 1825 have shown him as (all needs to be verified and confirmed):
    1811 - Joseph Jones, Royal Admiral (2), P, TL, & George Stanbury, Parramatta (Check!)
    1814 - Parramatta, Joseph Jones, Royal Admiral (2), Free, Off Stores, Brickmaker, & Mary White, Wanstead, Convict, On Stores, 1 child, midwife.
    1822 - JJ, fbs(?), Royal Admiral, 7 years, Brickmaker, Parramatta, 2 horses & Mary White, (fbs?), Wanstead, 7 years, wife of J. Jones Parramatta.
    1823-25 - JJ, Royal Admiral, 1800, 7 years, Brickmaker, Parramatta & Mary White, Wanstead, 1815, 7 years, wife of Joseph Jones Parra.
    From the Sydney Gazette & New South Wales Advertiser dated 7th June 1807, on page 2: John was one of the witnesses in the case of murder of a James Core at George Stanbury's property in Prospect. John was identified as a servant to George and that his evidence matched his master's. (15)

    The Mutch Index shown him to be married to Mary White in 1815:
    Joseph Jones, 44, F, married on 2 January 1815 to Mary White, 48, Wanstead. Witnesses: Mary Smith and John Ellison at St. John’s, Parramatta.
    And the BDM Registry:
    V18151715 3A - Joseph JONES & Mary WHITE - 2.1.1815, by banns at St John’s Parramatta.
    By August 1827, Samuel Thornton, the son-in-law of Joseph Jones, was advertising Joseph’s property for sale (10):
    TO BE SOLD by Private Contract, a Square of GROUND, containing    Two Acres, with two substantial brick-built Dwelling-houses thereon, situated near the Hawkesbury-road, the other side the Bridge at Parramatta, the Property of Mr. Joseph Jones; the Site is good and eligible, and ample to carry on any kind of mechanical Business ; immediate Possession may be had. - For further Particulars', apply by Letter, post paid, to the Proprietor, or to Mr. Samuel Thornton,Sign of the Union, George-street.
    Terms-Prompt Payment.
    Interestingly enough, Samuel also put in another advertisement concerning his place at Macquarie Street on the same day newspaper, stating that it is:
    TO BE LET or SOLD, that commodious
    House and Premises, No. 2, Macquarie street, containing Five spacious Rooms, with a Kitchen, a three stall Stable, Cow- shed, and Piggeries, with a Well of good Water, at present occupied by the Sydney Dispensary.-For further Particulars, enquire at Mr. Samuel Thornton, Sign of    the Union, George-street.
    So one wonders what was happening with Joseph Jones by 1827 and why is his place being sold. Joseph outlived both his wife, daughter Sarah and son-in-law Samuel by many years before dying on 17 January 1851. 

    From the BDM Registry:
    V18511644 37B: Joseph Jones, Aged 81 - died 16/1/1851, buried 19/1/1851. Abode Marsfield, Occ: brickmaker.
    Joseph Jones was buried at St John’s Church of England Cemetery at Parrmatta - in the Section 2, Row grave 5. The headstone shown as:
    “Sacred to the Memory of Margaret JONES - Who died January 15 1838, aged 78 [sic]
    Also Joseph JONES - Relic of the above - Who died January 16 1851, aged 81 years. - Grandfather and Grandmother of Mr George Thornton JP of Sydney.”

    The headstone is classified as a Norman sandstone on a Plith, with the biographical details on the raised tablet. The Burial Register shows a record of his burial as a John [sic] Jones # 1250 Mansfield. 19.1.1851. Brickmaker - H.H. Bobart (would this be a Minister or?).
    No obituaries found on Joseph JONES yet. Nor were the wills or such found yet.
    It seems that George Thornton, the son of Samuel Thornton was living at Elizabeth Street by the time of Samuel Thornton’s death. It could be assumed that the property located at Elizabeth Street may be the main Thornton household. This would need to be pursued to confirm the owners and durations of the particular property.

    Mary/Margaret WHITE
    (c.1770 - 1838)

    STEPMOTHER?

    It was 1814 when Mary WHITE was first associated with Joseph JONES through the 1814 Muster of NSW, however it is not clear if they were living together at this stage:
    Parramatta, Joseph Jones, Royal Admiral (2), Free, Off Stores, Brickmaker. Parramatta, Mary White, Wanstead, convict, On Stores, 1 child, Midwife.
    Next, we have the marriage record dated 2 January 1815:
    Joseph Jones, 44, F, married to Mary White, 48, Wanstead. Witnesses: Mary Smith and John Ellison. At St John’s, Parramatta

    Her Background

    Mary White came from London, her birth year is not clear as she had been giving wrong ages. However, it is thought she was born around 1770 to unknown parentage and by the time of her arrest, she was aged 30. 

    Her trial was held at the Old Bailey over the stolen thirty yards of muslin which was valued at five pounds and one from the premises of Messrs. George Vipond and George Rimington, the linen drapers. The transcription of the court proceeding of this trial shown below (11):
    292.  JANE SMITH and MARY WHITE were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 22nd of January, thirty yards of muslin, value 5 l. the property of George Vipond and George Rimington, in their dwelling-house.
    GEORGE RIMINGTON. I am a linen-draper. My partner's name is George Vipond, 29, Ludgate-hill, in the parish of St. Martin, Ludgate.
    THOMAS ROBINSON. I am one of the servants to    George Vipond and George Rimington . On the 22d of January, both the prisoners came into the shop together. Smith asked for sprigged muslins. I shewed them some. I asked six shillings a yard; they bid me five shillings a yard. They one asked the other, and they said five shillings was enough. I told them I could not take that price. They left the shop without buying.
    Q. Was there a number of pieces of muslin on the counter - A. Yes, there were. After they were gone I counted the muslins over. I missed two pieces. I told one of the young men. He desired me to go after them. I looked out at the door; I could not see anything of them, and after I turned round they came into the shop again. They asked for the muslins they were looking at before. I shewed them the muslins, and while they were looking at them I saw the prisoner, Smith, take something off the counter, and put under her cloak.
    Q. Did you actually see her removing them - A. I did. They each of them bought, and paid for what they bought. Smith bought four yards at six shillings, and White bought half a yard at five shillings. After they had paid for what they bought they left the shop.
    Q. How near was White to Smith when you saw her in the act of putting something under her cloak - A. She was close by her.
    Q. When you left the shop did you go after them - A. Mr. Kirby left the counter, and went after Smith, and as soon as Kirby stopped Smith, I stopped White. He took the muslins from Smith, and we brought them into the shop. White said, she had nothing at all to do with the other person, and she knew nothing of Smith taking the muslins. They were searched, and nothing was found upon White.
    Q. Did you know the things that were taken from Smith to be your master's property - A. Yes.
    Q. You said Smith had only bought four yards - A. Yes.
    Q. What was the quantity that was taken from her - A. Three pieces, from twenty- five to thirty yards in a piece.
    Q. Which of your masters live in the house - A. Mr. Rimington lives there. Mr. Vipond has a house in Ely-place, Holborn.
    WILLIAM KIRBY. I am one of the shopmen of Messrs Vipond and Rimington. I was serving in the shop on the 22nd of January, I saw the two prisoners come in the first time.
    Q. Did they appear to behave to each other as companions in every respect - A. Yes.
    Q. Were you serving at the same counter with the last witness, Robinson - A. No, I was not.
    Q. Did you observe anything while they were in the shop the first time - A. No, I did not. After they went out, Robinson mentioned his suspicion to me.
    Q. How long after Robinson mentioned his suspicion to you was it you saw them again - A. About half an hour, not more. They both came in together again.
    Q. Did you, in consequence of what Robinson told you, keep an eye upon them - A. Entirely so. My whole attention was attracted by them. While in the act of purchasing. I saw the prisoner, Smith, take three pieces of muslin, and put it under her cloak.
    Q. Where was the other at the time - A. Close by her. They both went out of the shop very shortly after. Smith was going out of the shop first. Smith apparently walked quicker. I got over the counter, and followed her into the street.
    Q. Then White was behind Smith - A. Yes. I asked Smith if she had not got something that was not her own. She said, me? and seemed surprised, and answered, no. I turned her mantle of one side, and took the three pieces of muslin from under her arm, in the street. I brought her back, and immediately sent for an officer.
    Q. Did you see her searched - A. I believe nothing else was found.
    Q. What may be the worth of these three pieces of muslin - A. They are valued in the indictment at five pounds. That is short of the value of them.
    CHARLES BOLLAND. I am a constable. I was sent for to take charge of these two prisoners. There were three pieces of muslin delivered to me by Mr. Kirby. He said, Smith stole it. He charged me with both of them. I searched both of them. I found nothing upon them. I have had the muslins in my possession ever since.
    Kirby. They are the property of Messrs. Vipond and Rimington. They have the shop-mark on them.
    Smith's Defence. On the 22d of January, I was going to purchase some muslin to make me a gown; I asked the prisoner, White, to go with me. We went there, and I asked to look at some muslin. I bid five shillings. He said, he could not take it. I went out of the shop, and we went to the corner of Fleet-market and had a small glass of peppermint. We came back, and there was two or three pieces of muslin laid on the floor. He said, he was sure I had taken them.
    White's Defence. I know nothing of it. 
    SMITH, GUILTY, aged 20. 
    WHITE, GUILTY, aged 31. 
    Of stealing, but not in the dwelling-house. Transported for Seven Years.
    London jury, before Mr. Common Serjeant.

    Mary was sent to Australia via Wanstead which left the port of Spithead, England on 24 August 1813 and took 138 days to arrive at Sydney Cove on 9 January 1814 (12). According to the shipping indent, Mary had not have any other names, so how did ‘Margaret’ appeared is uncertain.

    Four days after Mary arrived at the Sydney Cove, she was in the group of women convicts that were sent to Parramatta (13), presumed to the Female Factory at Parramatta. There she must have been ‘snapped up’ by Joseph Jones and from then, they’ve lived together (along with a child, according to the 1814 Muster) and got married the year after.

    It was after about 23 years of marriage before Mary died on 15 January 1838, aged 68 and was buried at St John’s Church of England Cemetery at Parrmatta - in the Section 2, Row grave 5. The headstone shown below as she ‘shared’ the grave and headstone with her husband:
    “Sacred to the Memory of Margaret JONES - Who died January 15 1838, aged 78 [sic]
    Also Joseph JONES - Relic of the above - Who died January 16 1851, aged 81 years. - Grandfather and Grandmother of Mr George Thornton JP of Sydney.”

    Is it possible that George Thornton considered her as his grandmother whether if she’s blood related or not. It is not certain whether Joseph and Mary Jones had any children, nor did they have any other extended family living nearby.

    There seems to be more research needed to find out more about this couple and their absolute relationship with Sarah Thornton.


    UPDATED NEWS:

    It seems that Joseph JONES married again after Mary's death. One of our cousins uncovered some interesting information recently.

    Joseph JONES remarried to Julia MURPHY after Mary's death in 1839 at St. John's, Parramatta (14).No issues out of this marriage and Julia died in 1850s to 1860s (there are 4 death records on NSW BDM Registry so need to work out which Julia it would be).

    When Joseph JONES died, he left the land to the Thornton children in his will (the will is not found yet - may have not survived by now). Sarah (nee THORNTON) and her husband John MORRIS went to the court against the other siblings maintaining that they were claiming the wrong blocks of land. It appeared that Joseph have had several blocks of land in the Sorrel Street area and may also have several houses/buildings on them as well - all due to his occupation as a brick maker.

    In the 1840s, Joseph applied to have the land he had leased from 1823 put in his name, however the fee costs 26 pounds. The title of the land was made out in 4 names - John Morris, Sarah Morris, Joseph Jones and Julia Jones with the deeds delivered to John Morris (assumed he paid the fee). It was only a few months later when John Morris paid Julia 200 pounds for her share of the title and then when Joseph died, Sarah and John Morris sold the land. It may be when John Morris went bankrupted and have to have the properties sold, etc.

    The land mentioned above was at the opposite corner of the land that George A Thornton claimed in the names of other sisters and brothers (and where George A Thornton later built his beautiful house "Lang Syne" on it - there was a painting of this house which had gone missing when the latest owner was in hospital). This land was mortgaged several times and it was the same for many other properties that George A owned. There is a complicated line of mortgages and ownerships changes right up to the death of George A Thornton which will be looked at in a later date.

    Sarah MORRIS had her eldest child at the JONES property (at Parramatta) in 1830 - so there is a strong family connection there and that Mary WHITE was a midwife, appeared to be working at the Female Factory in Parramatta as one of their midwives.

    It is generally believed that Mary WHITE/JONES is our direct ancestor while Joseph JONES married into our family. We will need to find out how Mary WHITE changed her name in England prior to her conviction. It is possible that the natural father of Sarah nee THORNTON had died earlier. It is also interesting to note that both Mary WHITE and Sarah THORNTON were convicted of stealing lace and that Sarah THORNTON was pregnant with Samuel Jnr when she was convicted - possibly to have her sentenced reduced, a big risk she took back then.

    Latest update  (2nd Feb 2012)

    A couple of hours at a local library to dig up more on Stanbury and Jones. This is what I've got:

    From the "Musters & Lists of New South Wales and Norfolk Island - 1800-1802": 
    • No Joseph Jones listed.
    From the "Musters of New South Wales and Norfolk Island - 1805-1806":
    • Jones, Joseph: 2 references (A2342 & A2348) both as subjects himself.
    • Jones, Joseph: 1 reference of other person (A1622). (page 232)
    • A1622: Name - Sarah Farrell, Ship of Arrival - 'Experiment', Condition - Prisoner, With whom lives - Joseph Jones, Parramatta. (page 42)
    • A2342: Name - Joseph Jones, Ship of Arrival - 'Royal Admiral 2', Condition - Prisoner with Ticket of Leave, How Employed was left blank. (page 58)
    • A2348: Name - Joseph Jones, Ship of Arrival - 'Royal Admiral 2', Condition - Prisoner, How employed - George Stanburry[sic], Parramatta. (page 58)
    • A3969: Name - George Stanbury, Ship of Arrival - 'Atlantic', Condition - Free by servitude, How employed - settler, 50acres Prospect. (page 95)
    • A4461: Name - Ann Taylor, Ship of Arrival - 'Britannia', Condition - Free by servitude, With whom lives - G Stanbury, Parramatta. (page 106)
    • B0385: Name - George Stanbury, Had wheat (10 acres), maize (7), barley (1), peas/beans (1/2), potatoes (1/2), orchard/garden (1 & 1/2), pasture (24 & 1/2), fallow (5), the total acres being 50. He also had 6 male hogs, 4 female hogs growing with 7 bushels of maize on hand. George himself, his wife and three kids all were Off Stores, along with their only convict who was also Off Stores. George had no other free men employed under him nor had any other types of animals apart from hogs on his property. He acquired his property through grant.
    From the "General Musters of New South Wales, Norfolk Island & Van Dieman's Land - 1811": 
    • A reference number of 3196: a resident of NSW, a male convict named Joseph Jones who arrived on 'Royal Admiral' after being trialled at Old Bailey in Oct 1799 with a sentence of 7 years. (page 70)
    • A reference number of 5527: a resident of NSW, a female convict named Anne Stanbury who arrived on 'Sydney Cove' after being trialled at Exeter in Jan 1806 with a sentence of 7 years. (page 119)
    • A reference number of 5528: a resident of NSW, a male convict named George Stanbury who arrived on 'Atlantic' after being trialled at Bristol in June 1789 with a sentence of 7 years. (page 119)
    From the "General Muster of NSW - 1814":
    • Number 2196: a resident of Parramatta, named Joseph Jones with the ship of arrival as 'Royal Admiral 2', his status being free and Off the Stores with no kids listed. His occupation was listed as a brickmaker. (page 50)
    • Number 4537: a resident of Sydney, named Samuel Thornton with the ship of arrival as 'Somersetshire', his status being free and Off the Stores, no kids listed. His occupation was listed as tailor. (page 102)
    • Number 6925: a resident of Sydney, named Sarah Thornton with the ship of arrival as 'Broxbornebury', her status being a convict but Off the Stores and her 2 kids also Off the Stores too. She was listed as a 'Wife to S Thornton'. (page 155)
    So somewhere between 1806 and 1814, he was freed from servitude meaning he no longer required to work for George Stanbury. However he remained in the area and I am not sure what happened to his first woman Sarah Farrell!

    An interesting but very complicated family we've got!

    Family Surnames: ECCLESTON, JONES, MORRIS, MURPHY, THORNTON, TUCKER, WHITE

    Bibliography

    (1) The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) Saturday 18 January 1851, page 5, column 5 - http:// trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12924226

    (2) The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803-1842) Monday 26 November 1827, page 3, column 5. - http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2189436/496403?zoomLevel=3

    (3) Higginbotham, E. “The Future of Parramatta’s Past. An Archaeological Zoning Plan. 1788 to 1844.” Department of Planning. 1991, with maps by Paul-Alan Johnson. Vol 1., page 41 & 42. Vol. 2., page 73. http:// www.higginbotham.com.au/publications.html

    (4) NSW BDM Registry Online - Family History Records of the marriages between Joseph JONES and Mary WHITE dated 1815 - V18151715 3A/1815 & V1815683 147B/1815. No certificate was ordered yet.

    (5) The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Online, Joseph Jones, Theft > Grand Larceny, 30th October 1799. http:// www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t17991030-32-defend321&div=t17991030-32

    (6) http://www.oldandinteresting.com/history-feather-beds.aspx - on ticks, bed-ticks.

    (7) Convicts and Convict Ships Sent to Port Jackson NSW 1787-1800. http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/
    convicts/shipNSW1.html

    (8) General Musters of New South Wales and Norfolk Island, 1805-1806 - needs checking!

    (9) Colonial Secretary Index, 1788-1825. State Records NSW Online - http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/ colsec/ij/F29c_jo-ju-13.htm#P6185_183885

    (10) The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW: 1803-1842) Monday 13 August 1827, page 1, column 6. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2188756

    (11) The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Online, Mary White, Theft > theft from a specific place, 17th February 1813.
    http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18130217-56-defend546&div=t18130217-56

    (12) Convicts to Australia - NSW Convict Women on Ships arriving from England and Ireland 1788-1828. Wanstead shipping indent. http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/confem44.html

    (13) Colonial Secretary Index, 1788-1825. State Records NSW Online - http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/w/ F60c_wh-wig-05.htm

    (14) NSW BDM Registr Online - Family History record of the marriage between Joseph JONES and Julia MURPHY dated 1839 - V1839220 23B/1839. No certificate was ordered yet.

    (15) TROVE - The Sydney Gazette & New South Wales Advertiser, dated 07 Jun 1807, page 2: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/627444/6392?

    Tuesday, March 8, 2011

    Welcome to my 'blue gum' family History...

    'Blue Gum' for those lovely Australian Blue Gum trees that I love apart from Red Gums...

    I've decided to start on this to record all the information on my Family History Research as I've found that keeping Rootsweb's site more difficult to maintain now.

    I am attempting to start a new post for each individual and each family group so it would be easier to search and read then. I would also try to put in how I search, why I believe the source to be accurate, and how I knitted all the families together, etc., as well any little gems that should be posted.

    Your input are always appreciated and encouraged! No input = no more of this... ? 

    Thanks!